The BBC has the story on its web site – see link above
I find myself now agreeing with a Tory politician following agreeing with a former Labour one on the same issue – Brexit.
This time John Major is in effect attacking the nutters in his party, UKIP and indeed Labour who seem to think all will be rosy in the Brexit garden. He is right to say that the impression being given by Brexiters, that all will be great, is utter rubbish and that everything is likely to be very far from wonderful.
But as I took in the thoughtful comments of John Major I was also watching the BBC evening regional news programme who, for reasons best know to themselves, had taken a caravan to Blackpool to hear the views of their Brexit lovers. And what did we hear but that ridiculous and utterly untrue story about bananas! Give me strength and give the BBC some idea about how to conduct a meaningful regional news item!
Well I never thought I would say that about Tony Blair who to many of us is in the same naughty corner as Nick Clegg for lack of credibility. BUT both of them are right about Brexit whatever I may feel about Blair’s Iraq War and Clegg’s Tuition Fees U-turn – and I feel a great deal about those issues.
Brexit is utter madness and it will more than likely destroy our economy, standards of living and many other things. That’s fine to Brexiters but it is not fine by me. They can opt for poverty, low living standards etc. if they want but those of us who don’t want to step off that cliff edge with them need to keep up the fight against Brexit.
In many ways Blair is saying what many Remainers have been saying for a long time now, indeed he seems to hold very similar views to Tim Farron the Lib Dem Leader who has been at the forefront of the campaign to oppose Brexit.
Blair was always too right wing for my taste (although that goes for most Labour politicians) but those of us who want to save the UK from the mad Hard Brexit plan of UKIP/Tory/Labour have to put our distrust of each other to one side. The battle to save the UK from the catastrophic consequences of Brexit is far more important than the chips we may carry around on our shoulders from previous fights.
And no I have not gone over to the dark side and yes Blair is still in my view a person who should be facing the consequences of his ill-considered war in Iraq.
But yes we are into the fight of our lives and if we don’t wake up it will give us a beating that many of those who voted for Brexit never even thought of whilst they were being lied to by an utterly irresponsible press and that cabal of appalling MP’s who led the Leave campaign.
So hey Tony Blair is right, get over it; we should be chucking verbal bricks at at the UKIP/Tory/Labour politicians who have gotten us into this mess not him. We can deal with him when this crisis is over.
The Independent has the story on its web site – see link above
Looks like this valued card may be at risk. Is this going to be another potential negative effect of Brexit? But will it sober up a Labour Party, who are supposed to be Her Majesty’s opposition, but which seem to be daily more firmly in Teresa May’s Brexit back pocket?
With thanks to Roy Connell for the lead to this posting
I’ve had an e-mail from Chuka (on Behalf of campaign group Open Britain) who was one of the few Labour MP’s who campaigned really hard to keep the UK in the EU. I had respect for him for that stance, especially as his party was generally poor at Remain campaigning.
BUT Chuka then voted to enact Article 50 a few days ago and therefore voted for Brexit!
Now he sends me an e-mail worrying about Brexit and amendments that will need to be put forward in Parliament to try to change Mrs Mayday’s White Paper.
Excuse me, why on earth should I take any notice what so ever of an MP who campaigns for Remain, Votes for Article 50 and then expects me to support him in his amendments? Sorry your stance is beyond the bizarre Chuka.
I’ve been a Liberal all my adult life (having read the 3 major party manifestos from the 1979 General Election I realised I was indeed a Liberal) and throughout that time I have often heard people say things like Liberals are nice people, you care about people and other such comments.
Of course I have also heard just the opposite when former Lib Dem Leader Nick Clegg, foolishly in my view, dropped opposition to Labour’s Student Tuition Fees. In some ways it was not actually about Tuition Fees, it was about trust and not carrying out what folks thought the Lib Dems had said they stood for. By gum some lessons were learned there and rightly so!
Now with the incredibly stupid idea of us leaving the EU and most probably tipping the UK economy over the edge in the process Liberals have been leading the fight against Brexit – along with the SNP in Scotland of course. This has polarised opinions and many on the right in particular really do hate us Liberals for our pro-EU stance.
But whilst the country is going to the dogs liberalism is on the rise – I am told that membership of the Lib Dem Party is soaring to its highest levels in a very long time. And you know I don’t think it is at all a bad thing for Liberals to be unpopular with people who support Brexit and who hold illiberal views on many other things. Some of them may even have voted Liberal in the past not really knowing how pro-EU we Liberals are but they won’t be making that mistake again I am sure!
10 reasons to dislike Liberals:-
If you hate the EU
If you are a racist
If you like our appalling unrepresentative voting system
If you are intolerant towards people from other countries
If you support UKIP
If you care little for environmental issues
If you are a Little Englander
If you think that Donald Trump is a good thing
If you change facts to fit with your own views
If you can’t see how beneficial it is to have people from other countries working and studying in the UK
I could go on but I guess you get my drift.
The cause of Liberalism has clearly been reignited by the EU Referendum, especially with Labour being so all over the place on this most crucial of issues.
No, I’m happy that some folks really don’t like Liberals because that means we are doing the right things and not trying to be all things to all people. And that’s a lesson that Labour has seemingly not yet learned. When over 60% of Labour voters supported staying in the EU they switch away from their admittedly half hearted Remain support and choose to back Brexit and the views of their minority right wing supporters! And this from a party whose membership is now predominately left wing. You really could not make up the tangle Labour have got themselves into could you. Of course that’s why Labour members who are also liberal and pro-EU by instinct are leaving that party and joining the Lib Dems.
If the Lib Dems have always had an obvious problem it has been trying to nail down what the party stands for in the minds of the electorate. Well that nailing down has clearly been done now!
You have to laugh or indeed cry as Labour simply don’t know what to do about Brexit.
They campaigned very meekly (with a few notable exceptions) to Remain but are now backing Brexit and they have held just about every possible position between the two since the EU Referendum. Talk about sitting on a fence and being unable to decide which side to get off!
But who are Labour actually pledging to have ‘HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT’ with? Well themselves obviously as they are desperately split on what to do. But are they really going to have a go at the Tories, whom they now fundamentally seem to agree with with over the principle of Brexit?
As I have said before this will lead to a lot of silly shadow boxing as they try to give the impression that they are opposing whilst actually Labour, Tories and UKIP are all in the same Leave boat.