Great Altcar – Old Gore Farm House

Literally a few yards outside of Lydiate, at the bottom of Bells Lane where the road takes a sharp right hand turn and becomes Altcar Lane in Great Altcar Civil Parish stands this house. The datestone goes back to 1596 and looks like this:-

The building has always interested me because of the date stone, so I’ve tried to find out a bit about it. Here are a couple of links that offer more information:-

historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1073148

www.hslc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/58-7-Rylands-and-Price.pdf

You’ll need to scroll through a couple of pages of the 2nd link to find the relevant part.

A bit of history right on Lydiate’s doorstep and I’m guessing that as the name mentioned is Gore that there’s likely to be a family link to the Gore’s Charity which is for the benefit of Lydiate and still gives out grants even to this day. If I have made a wrong connection here please let me know and I will correct things.

Click on the lead photo (which is also on my Flickr Page at www.flickr.com/photos/86659476@N07/) to enlarge it.

5 thoughts on “Great Altcar – Old Gore Farm House

  1. Joan Empson says:

    The land in the area of Upper Gore Farm and Old Gore House farm is a triangular strip known as The Goree. The name comes from this. The area was original part ot Lord Sefton’s estate and the houses were all built by the estate which included Great Altcar and Sefton village. Upper Gore farmhouse dates back to the 13th century.

  2. Jane says:

    I have been researching the Goore family of Altcar and environs, and some of the family are associated with the Goore Houses, which may have taken their name from the family (or perhaps vice-versa?). The family leased property from the Earls of Sefton for generations. A number of Goore family birth records and wills from around 1700 and earlier give “Goore Houses within Altcar” as a residence. John Goore of Lydiate, who established Goore’s charity in his 1670 will, is associated with this family, as is Charles Goore, who was born at Goorehouses within Altcar in about 1701 and later served as Lord Mayor of Liverpool.

  3. Mary Sayers says:

    Thanks for your interesting site.

    I wonder if the following (from LANCAT archives) is relevant:

    Document reference
    DDM/19/58
    Title
    For 2 lives at 23/5 rent : for £55
    Description
    Caryl, Viscount Molyneux, to James Gore of Alkar, husbandman — messuage in Alkar late in the tenure of William decd. father of J.G. — for lives of John and William sons of J.G. Witn. Nicholas Fazakerley, Thomas Tickle.
    Date
    8 Feb. 1665

    My paternal line is Gore, and DNA testing has shown a very clear Y-DNA link between my brother and a documented descendant of the Gores of Altcar. This person told me of a family story that a Gore had been granted land by his employer in gratitude for saving him in a skirmish in Ireland. I have not yet been able to establish whether there is any truth in this intriguing story. NB also that research has been done at UCLan into the Gores of Sefton, Lydiate and Altcar: one day I hope to get a chance to study the findings. If anyone knows anything at all, I’d be grateful for information.

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