So what do you do when you see a ‘Bike Box’?

The Liverpool Echo has the article on its website – see link below:-

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/drivers-face-100-fine-three-16148019#ICID=Android_EchoNewsApp_AppShare

Well as a driver I’ve always kept out of them but now I’m also a cyclist it’s apparent that some drivers stop within Bike Boxes.

The photo above is of the junction at Kenyons Lane/Northway in Lydiate as just one example of a ‘Bike Box’ and I wonder what the experiences of local drivers and cyclists are of using them?

With thanks to Keith Page for the lead to this posting

One thought on “So what do you do when you see a ‘Bike Box’?

  1. Bob Jungels says:

    I try not to get wound up by this kind of story (if you can even call it a story), but the comments below it on the Echo webpage are utterly depressing, and that particular bike box pictured above is basically a complete waste of space.

    1, If a cyclist reaches the lights on red, they wait inside the box. Okay, great. But where to next? Whichever way they go they are flung out onto a busy A-road (A59) or a narrow rat run road (Kenyons/Park Lane) – neither road has any kind of cycling infrastructure whatsoever. Neither does Kenyons Lane itself, coming from the school. So what is its purpose apart from this chance encounter that a bicycle reaches the red light before a car? Put it this way, if there were no box, would a car really overtake the cyclist at the red light, thereby essentially blocking the road? So if we take it away, is it any less safe for a cyclist?

    2. If a bike box is on a road that is wide enough for a cyclist to ‘undertake’ traffic and end up inside the bike box, okay, maybe the cyclist can take advantage of this particular bit of ‘space’ while they wait at the lights.
    In this case, the road is far too narrow for a cyclist who may be 3 or 4 cars back behind the front car at the lights and wanting to under/overtake. Hence they would have to wait behind whichever car they stop behind anyway. Again, no safety advantage to the cyclist, so what’s the point?

    Okay so what can we do? Here at this junction I have already discussed in a previous post the amount of space available and provided some great links to best practice in the Netherlands. Holistically, there isn’t much we can do about narrow roads like Kenyons Lane because of land ownership on either side of the road, but we don’t have this excuse for new developments, like the horrendous one being built next to Maghull North. Utterly horrendous example of how not to plan and design a new housing development in the 21st century. Any chance you have a word with those JCB lads who destroyed the canal bridge to do the same to this whole estate? Put them to good use!

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