Scrambler bikes destroying the peace of Sefton’s lovely countryside

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/scrambler-bikes-causing-misery-across-10692363

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/police-helicopter-follows-dangerous-scrambler-10700883

The Liverpool Echo has the stories – see links above

There is no doubt in my mind that Sefton Borough has long had a problem with anti-social people riding scrambler bikes in our beautiful places and now even in an indoor shopping centre! That’s not to say that Merseyside Police have been ignoring the problem because they have had a number of successes in tracking the dangerous riders down.

In the East Parishes part of the Borough the tow path of the Leeds Liverpool Canal, the Cheshire Lines Path and Jubilee Woods all suffer from scrambler bikes being ridden at speed and with no regard for the the safety of walkers.

Merseyside Police, despite their very limited resources are to be commended for trying to tackle this problem. Let’s hope they confiscate more bikes for the crusher!

Old Map of Southport – 1958 – Some of it’s former railways were still on the map

I mentioned a few days ago (see link below) that I had come across an old Ordnance Survey Map of Liverpool from 1958.

tonyrobertson.mycouncillor.org.uk/2015/04/07/old-ordnance-survey-map-of-liverpool-in-1958-maghull-lydiate-the-cheshire-lines-railway/

The map also covers Southport so let’s have a look at that part of the map which I have scanned:-

Southport 1958

Click on the map to enlarge it.

The most noticeable thing is that the former West Lancashire Railway line from Southport to Preston is clearly still up and running. No way would that line have been closed now if it had only just survived the Beeching era. It was of course 3rd rail electrified from Southport to Crossens.

The trackbed of the former Southport and Cheshire Lines Extension Railway from Aintree is also just about visible along the coastline. It had been closed in July of 1952 and is now Southport’s Coastal Road from Ainsdale to near the old Lord Street Station. It also serves as the Cheshire Lines Long Distance Footpath which is part of the Trans Pennine Trail to Hull.

The former Liverpool, Southport & Preston Junction Railway (LS&PJR) line from Meols Cop/Blowick to Hillhouse Junction (on the Southport & Cheshire Lines Extension Railway) is still denoted as being in use as far as Shirdley Hill. Whilst the line closed in January 1952 it was retained as far as Shirdley Hill and used for the storage excursion carriages until 1964.

If readers want to no more about the West Lancashire Railway or indeed the LS&PJR there is an excellent book on it by J E Cotterall which was published by The Oakwood Press in 1982, that may be available in second hand book shops.

My 3rd posting based on this map will appear soon regarding railways around Ormskirk, Burscough and Skelmersdale.

Scrambler bikes – Merseyside Police score some big hits

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/four-more-arrests-part-merseyside-8965461

The Liverpool Echo has the story – see link above.

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This has to be good news. The Leeds Liverpool Canal tow path through Melling, Aintree, Maghull and Lydiate suffers from this menace as does the Cheshire Lines Path, Jubilee Wood and the other woodland areas around Lunt and Sefton Villages. I know the residents of Lunt Village are dreading another summer of these bikes being used around where they live. The noise and danger to pedestrians is obvious so great news that Merseyside Police are hitting those responsible hard.

Maghull – Sefton Drive and Cheshire Lines Path is a dumping ground!

Having had complaints from residents I took the photos below on 21st January. Frankly the whole area is a mess of litter and dog fouling.

It is not a new problem but it is one that is getting worse. I have asked Sefton Council to try to clear the area up.

The sad thing is that this area is the end or the beginning, depending on which way you look at it, of the section of the Cheshire Lines Path Maghull to Southport stretch. Goodness knows what visitors think never mind what the Sefton Drive residents have to put up with on their door step.

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Cheshire Lines 3

Cheshire Lines 4

Sefton Drive

Lydiate Signal Box – Southport & Cheshire Lines Extension Railway

A while ago I blogged about a photo that I had just purchased asking if anyone knew those pictured outside Lydiate Signal Box. You can see my original post by clicking the link below:-

tonyrobertson.mycouncillor.org.uk/2014/03/14/lydiate-signal-box-who-are-the-bystanders/

I have had two leads since then and a new photo.

Silva Bradbury has been in touch from Maghull and she thinks that two of the people could be her Grandfather George Peet and a chap called Arthur Hunter. Both she tells me were plate layers working on the Cheshire Lines.

The new photo that she generously let me scan (an old postcard) is below and it looks to me to be much latter than the original one I published in my previous posting. It’s probably from the 1940’s or early 1950’s just prior to the railway closure? Here it is:-

Lydiate Signal Box

Lydiate Signal Box

I was also contacted by Trevor Booth who has an interest in the Cheshire Lines Committee. This is what he said to me:-

I’ve just been looking at your picture of Lydiate signal box. A cracking photo which I’ve not seen before. I have a long interest in the CLC and it’s great to see pictures like this. There is only 1 possible name I can put on the picture and this depends on the approximate date it was taken. It looks to be c 1900-1914 on what I assume to be a Post Card? If so then information from trade directories of this period give the name of the Station Master (stood in front of the corner post of the box with a beard) as follows.

(These are the dates of the trade directories the names appear in,)

JWV Taylor 1887,1891,1895
James Harlow 1898
John Roberts 1901,1905
Harry Harlow 1909
Thomas Potter 1913
John Smith Kennerley 1924

Lydiate station would have been at or very near the bottom of the Station Master’s ladder of promotion so before coming here as SM he would probably be a Clerk at another station on the CLC.

Let me know if you can decide which one it is and I will see if I can find out from my notes where (if anywhere) he went next although they are not comprehensive and have quite a few gaps.

My thanks to Sylvia and Trevor. We seem to know a little more than we did before but there are still some mysteries to solve as Sylvia did not recognise any of the names listed above.

The photo above is amongst my Flickr shots at:-
www.flickr.com/photos/86659476@N07/

Lydiate Signal Box – Who are the bystanders?

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This is the former signal box of Lydiate Station on the old Southport and Cheshire Lines Extension Railway which closed even before Beeching got his regrettable hands on our once great network of railways.

But even I realise that this line served far too many sparsely populated rural communities to survive and I have commented before about how far away Lydiate Station was from Lydiate Village Green – a long way!

I recently purchased this photo and am wondering who the people in the photo may be. They are most likely Lydiate folk and there may be people living in Lydiate now who are related to them. I would love to hear from anyone with any ideas about the folks in what seems to be a staged undated photo.