Lydiate – The Gores Charity

Lydiate’s Gores Charity goes back many years and it supports the needy in the Lydiate community and also assists students with the cost of educational books. A link to the Sefton CVS page that details its charitable work is below:-

It looks like this charitable trust is about to update itself as its assets continue to grow despite the grants that it makes. I understand that Lancashire & Merseyside Community Foundation will be assisting in this process.

Cllr. Edie Pope is the representative of Lydiate Parish Council on the Trust’s managing committee and I am sure we will hear more about potential changes to Lydiate’s own local charitable trust.

Lydiate Abbey and the Conservation Area it sits in – Posting No. 2

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I posted quite recently about damage to the ruins of Lydiate Abbey which could have been an attempt to extract some dressed stone from it. Here is a link back to my original posting:-

The latest on the damage is that after a bit more digging into the situation things seems to be like this.

Sefton’s Council’s Conservation Offer was aware of previous similar damage to the Abbey and was in the process of agreeing a repair process with the Catholic Archdiocese, who are the owners of the site/ruins. If I have understood the position correctly a further inspection of the ruins has now taken place as a consequence of the alarm being raised by Cllr. Edie Pope being contacted by the member of the public as mentioned in my original posting. Further repairs have been identified and and the Archdiocese will be engaging a specialist repair contractor to deal with the damage. I also understand that Sefton Council will pay for the repairs.

Just to clarify some things from my original posting – Sefton Council has an agreement with the Archdiocese about maintenance of the stonework of the ruins but this comes to an end later this year. Indications are that it will not be renewed by Sefton. Lydiate Parish Council is involved in a sub-lease for it to do the grounds maintenance – grass cutting, litter removal etc. It is because of the impending end to this agreement that the Friends of the Abbey (Dave Russell’s voluntary Group) are trying to sort out a new agreement with the Catholic Archdiocese for sustainable management of the ruins and site for the future. It is this later process that is worryingly stuck at present.

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If you would like to know more about Lydiate’s Conservation Area please follow the link below:-

When you reach the page please scroll down until you see Lydiate Hall and Chapel Conservation Area and click on that link.

This quote from the document on Sefton’s web site is sadly quite telling:-

Consolidation of the ruin has taken place during the 20t century; however ongoing vandalism, stone-robbing and the natural process of deterioration mean that the ruin needs careful and consistent management.

The photos above are also amongst my Flickr photos at:-

I hope I now have presented a clearer/fuller picture of this issue but please shout if not.

Lower Alt Wind Farm – More news to update you

Coriolis Energy came to talk to Lydiate Parish Council last Tuesday about their plans to erect 12 Blackpool Tower sized wind turbines on high grade agricultural land between Lydiate and Ince Blundell.

Regular readers of this blog site will know that I have commented on this plan many times before as it has been doing the rounds for ages.

Originally 24 turbines, the site is actually in West Lancashire not in Sefton. I am opposed to the plan because the turbines and the access roads to them are to be built on the highest grade of agricultural land. Put simply this is a draft place to site them in my view even though I am in no way an opponent of wind power, quite the opposite actually.

The discussion at the Parish Council meeting was of limited benefit as frankly the Coriolis representatives did not seem to me to be that well informed. Vague/general answers to questions posed seemed to be the order of the day. We did learn however that West Lancs Borough Council would be likely to decide on the planning application before them in the autumn or winter of 2016. (However, two days later when I ran across one of the lead campaigners against the turbines I was told that the application would probably be discussed at a West Lancs Planning Committee meeting to be held on 28th July.)

We touched on bird migration (Pink Footed Geese in particular) and the objections of the RSPB and the Wetlands Trust, although I am coming to the view that the effect of the turbines on bird migration may well not be a significant issue. I realise I am expressing a view here that others may disagree with.

The blade tips will be 136.5 meters high and one generating turbine (i.e. when the wind is blowing) will supply power to 2,000 houses, so Coriolis say.

There was an interesting discussion raised by my old friend Cllr. Edie Pope who asked the Coriolis representatives how they would take into account underground fires caused by the land being a drained peat moss. Underground fires are not unusual in this area. I don’t think Edie got an answer she was satisfied with.

We were told that the background noise would only be 5db above the prevailing background noise when the turbines were operating and that an increase of 10db would be required for the human ear to register the increase.

Obviously I am no expert so can’t really comment on some of the technical assumptions and statements made about them but at the end of the day it is still the highest grade of agricultural land that is going to be built on so my view remains ‘no’ to the turbines on this site.

Lydiate – Southport Road/Mairscough Lane – Too many road accidents

My good friend Cllr. Edie Pope campaigned to get the speed limit reduced to 40mph along the section of Southport Road that leads out of Lydiate and into West Lancashire some time ago. At the Church Lane junction by St. Thomas’ Church the road name changes to Mairscough Lane and it noticeably narrows to a blind bend. Sadly, the road traffic accidents have kept piling up.

Lydiate Parish Councillor Edie Pope outside her farm shop on Lydiate's Southport Road. The blind narrow bend is in the background.

Lydiate |Parish Councillor Edie Pope outside her farm shop on Lydiate’s Southport Road. The blind narrow bend is in the background.

Frankly the road is too narrow especially where large vehicles are concerned and there have been a lot of very serious accidents and some loss of life in recent years. It was for this reason that Edie fought for the speed limit to be reduced.

I really think that Sefton and Lancashire Councils need to radically re-think how they can better manage the speeding problems that are often behind the accidents.

The temptation to speed is created by the clear wide carriageways that lead into this tight narrow section of road and frankly the nutters are never going to slow down unless they are forced to do so.

So Edie, who lives on the section of road and has seen far too many accidents, and I are calling upon Sefton Council and Lancashire County Council to make radical plans to try to stop the accidents. We have written to them both urging them to work together to find a sustainable solution as soon as possible. Bigger warning signs simply will not work, that’s been tried before.

We must stop people being seriously injured and indeed killed at this accident black spot.

Lydiate – Lambshear Lane Flooding – An update


When I reported the flooding in Lambshear Lane over the weekend I was not aware that Cllr. Edie Pope was already on the case. This is the latest as I understand it from Sefton Council:-

Thank-you for your enquiry regarding highway flooding at Lambshear Lane. I can confirm that our contractor attended site to draw off the flood water and have identified that further work is required on the highway drain to resolve the problem. The contractor has advised that they are going back to Lambshear Lane on Monday (today), to carry out the work when the school is closed for the Christmas break, as they need to work in relatively close proximity to the school.