Labour’s Remainers are in fact the real problem in that broken party

I was taken by the article below from the Huffington Post by Tim Walker as it seems to sum up so well why we progressives, outside of Labour, can’t get our heads around the party’s Remainers staying within Corbyn’s camp.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-remain-jeremy-corbyn_uk_5d28968fe4b0060b11eb388e?ncid=other_twitter_cooo9wqtham&utm_campaign=share_twitter

I too have heard Labour’s leading Remainers make big speeches but each time I hear one they become less inspiring as you know they will not follow through and do anything remotely useful to get the Labour Party off it’s ridiculous job-loss Brexit hook.

How many times have we heard David Lammy wringing his hands and sounding like he could offer some hope only to realise that in the end it’s the Labour Party, no matter what it stands for, that he is actually wedded to. Well sadly David that’s how it looks to us Remainers outside of Labour’s cultist camp.

Labour’s ultimate problem is that loyalty to the party comes before absolutely everything else so whatever the leadership does is backed come what may. Grumbling and big speeches aside (from those who have issues with the party leaders) those in charge will be followed over the cliff edge if required.

My own realisation of this was with regard to Andrew Adonis who carpet bagged himself around the UK as though he was the person to save us all from the evils of Brexit. Why I only missed his public meeting in Ormskirk last year because I had another call on my time that I could not get out of. My radical liberal daughter went though and she was impressed with what Adonis had to say, BUT then as the fog cleared it became apparent that Adonis cared not at all for Remainers who were other than Labour Remainers. What’s more he then went and stood in the EU elections this year under Labour’s flag of Brexit! How he sleeps at night I have no idea but the only saving grace is that he lost in those EU elections.

Labour’s Remainers have done untold damage to the UK because of their weakness. In backing their party, above all else, they have allowed their own leadership to keep plodding on with it’s own bizarre job-loss Brexit and they’ve helped the real right wing nutters try to drive through their mad vision for a No-Deal Brexit Britain.

But you know the really odd part of this is that if Labour finally becomes a Remain Party at some point, the Labour Remainers will act like they have never been a part of a Brexit backing party at all!

Boris, Davis and Fox – The 3 Tory Brexit Ministers – They look shmbolic but what would be different under Labour?

That our 3 Brexit Ministers and indeed our Tory/DUP Brexit Government look to be all over the place with regard to pursuing the Nation’s mass suicide wish is a given.

That Labour shout about the muddle and lack of policy direction from the sidelines is also a given.

But what would be different under a Corbyn Government when Labour actually shares a pretty similar Brexit agenda to the Tories? Labour’s manifesto for the 2017 General Election was clear in that it advocated leaving the EU so would they not be in the same tangle and policy black hole if they had won in June as opposed to the the Tories and their DUP allies?

It strikes me as beyond belief that the major party of opposition is on the same page as the Government with regard to the most significant policy issue of a generation. Where’s the opposition? How can there be any opposition when Labour MP’s, despite their Brexit bluster, are being whipped into backing the Tories Brexit Plans whatever they may be?

It is more than likely that our economy will continue to decline because of Brexit, that jobs will be at risk, that Government revenues will fall and that public services and therefore welfare will be hit hard. On that basis how on earth is an incoming Labour Government going to fund all the myriad of things that it claims to want to fund from the public purse?

And it’s this conundrum that leads me to think that Labour, as much as the Tories, are simply not thinking through the consequences of backing Brexit whilst they try hard to be popularist. Both want to be seen as backing the 52% in the EU Referendum because they want to be pursuing the will of the electorate. Yet they both know that beneath the veil of populism Brexit means only one significant thing – a poorer country with less influence on world affairs. Neither seem to know how they will deal with these stark facts when they become the view of an electorate which will then surely turn on their leaders and blame them for misleading them about the consequences of Brexit. Well all except that section of Brexiters who bizarrely want the pain and misery for their friends, family and country.

As a Liberal and as a trade unionist my thoughts are always with those who are missing out in our society; the poor in particular are surely going to be the major losers when the economy tanks and even a Corbyn Government, should there be one, will not be able to fund the welfare system that it dreams of. They won’t fund it and other promised public expenditure because Government revenues will simply not be there and the alternative of borrowing more money will simply tip the UK economy over the edge again.

So what is Labour’s answer to Brexit? Sit and watch the Brexit 3 make a complete mess of things, blame them for the mess and point out how much better things would have gone had Labour been negotiating the UK leaving the EU? But surely that will not wash? Surely the electorate will look at Labour and say hang on a minute you wanted what the Tories wanted over Brexit so you are as much to blame as the Tories.

And there’s the rub, Labour have to hope that the Brexit 3 and our Tory Government make such a mess of the Brexit negotiations (which is in no way in the interests of the UK) that the electorate will be convinced that there was in fact a more sensible and benign way to leave the EU (although there wasn’t) and that Labour would have pursued it if it had been in Government. Best of luck with that plan Corbynistas – you need the Country to tank so you look like heroes but then you won’t have a brass Farthing to bless the poor with even if you gain power!

An opposition with a backbone is required and the way Labour are going it won’t be them.

Stop press:-

On the day I published this posting I became aware that my own Labour MP for Sefton Central had been interviewed only hours earlier about Labour’s Brexit position and he tried hard to make things clear, or not, as the case may be:-

Emma Barnett asked the Shadow International Trade Minister Bill Esterson five times if Labour would leave the customs union on 5 Live Daily. The Politics Home web site has the video and story:-

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/foreign-affairs/brexit/news/88265/watch-labour-shadow-minister-fails-five-times-set-out

Labour’s dilemma laid bare in Prescot

I went canvassing yesterday for a local council by-election and was struck by two things. Firstly, the revival of the Lib Dem vote was strong and of course, from my point of view, most welcome. But what really stood out was the the position of the Labour Party and it was not good news for them!

Yes of course I came across a few tribal Labour voters who have voted Labour all their lives and will continue to do so no matter what Labour stands for. I suppose you categorise them as Labour’s right wing. Most of them will not actually be Labour Party members but their loyalty to Labour is absolute.

Compare that with the actual membership of the Labour Party these days; predominately left wing, socialist and very much behind Jeremy Corbyn.

These two groups are all but incompatible and to add to the mix you have the vast majority of Labour’s MP’s being in neither camp! Yes of course some will be from Labour’s working class tribal right and some will be Corbynites but the vast majority of them are stuck somewhere in the middle. They will be seen as being social democrats in polite company and as Red Tories by their own Party membership.

So what about Prescot? Well Labour-run Knowsley Council is clearly about as popular as snow at harvest; even Labour supporters who expressed a view about their local council were hardly complimentary. But what I noticed, if you take away Labour’s tribal supporters, is that the rest are hardly enthused about Labour at all these days.

Obviously I don’t know how the Prescot by-election will turn out but what I could clearly see on the doorsteps of Prescot was that the national trend of Labour support slipping away whilst Lib Dem support rises is being replicated.

As I often say, hey I’m a Liberal, most Labour folk seem too right wing to me.

PS. BTW I personally did not come across anyone who said they were a Tory supporter.

Merseyside Metro Mayor – What is it with Labour’s attachment to a Tory spin policy?

I am no Labour supporter (I’m actually backing Cllr. Carl Cashman’s campaign to be selected as the Lib Dem candidate for Merseyside Metro Mayor) but have to say that there must surely be a huge collective sigh of relief across Merseyside that Joe Anderson has not selected as the Labour candidate.

But why is Steve Rotherham MP, who will be Labour’s candidate, backing the Northern Poorhouse policy of George Osborne? Is he another Labour politician who has not realised that the Northern Powerhouse is just Tory spin?

I have commented before on Labour’s odd attachment to the previous Tory Chancellor’s Northern Powerhouse policy. Interestingly, both Steve Rotherham (a Corbyn backer) and his Labour counterpart for the Manchester Metro Mayor Andy Burnham (very much not a Corbynite) are both backing this Tory policy that many of us have seen through a long time ago.

It never ceases to amaze me how close the Tories and Labour really are. Yes I know that my lot had 5 years in coalition with the Tories nationally but I am talking of the unstated but trackable Tory/Labour collaboration going back years here on Merseyside.