The Guardian has the comment piece on its web site – see link below
I must admit that when it started to appear that the Electoral Commission had acted in a less than even handed way over the EU Referendum my first thought was no surely not but as the whole saga has unfolded some very worrying aspects of the actions of the Commission have been brought to the surface.
I suppose the bottom line is how on earth could a body charged with ensuring fairness in our democratic process get itself into such a situation? It beggars belief frankly.
With thanks to Roy Connell for the lead to this posting.
Like many I have long been one who has defended the BBC but because of it’s appalling coverage of the EU Referendum and subsequently it becoming little more than the Brexit Broadcasting Company I have lost all confidence in it. It’s obsession with Nigel Farage has done it great harm so as a consequence those of us who voted Remain and who were once backers of the BBC have just about given up all hope of it ever returning to informative and independent reporting.
And why do I say this now? Well the Radio Times 1st – 7th September edition carries a ‘Viewpoint’ article in the name of well known BBC reporter John Simpson and frankly it made me very angry.
Whether John was asked to write the piece or volunteered it, due to the pressure the BBC has been coming under?, I don’t know but he clearly and utterly fails to understand why the BBC is now looked upon in a very negative way by the very people who used to defend it from attacks of the mad right or left of UK politics.
John says in effect that the BBC has not changed but that those of who have turned against it have. In other words we are the problem and the BBC is not! No John, it’s not that we are upset because the BBC is presenting arguments that we disagree with, we are upset because the balance of the BBC’s news and current affairs output is heavily pro Brexit. That some of the BBC’s prominent presenters are seemingly pro-Brexit simply makes things worse from our perspective. Ignoring some pro-Remain events, attended by big crowds also mitigates against the BBC.
I’m sorry John but from my point of view and I suspect from many others too you are sadly defending the indefensible.
We don’t want a BBC that presents big issues on a one side says this the other says the opposite basis. We want the lies and the liars exposed, no matter who they are.
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Frankly I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, this mess is all of the UK’s making. We said we wanted out and now we want ‘out’ to be on our terms. I’m not even sure that the Government or indeed the Official Opposition, who also back Brexit, know what kind of a deal they actually want anyway!
We must look an odd self-destructive lot to our soon to be ex-European partners as they clearly can’t work out what we are up to or even why. Then again you only have to listen to the drivel that comes from the lead Brexit politicians in both the Tory and Labour Parties to realise they don’t have a clue what they are talking about most of the time.
If I were the EU I would treat the UK like a naughty petulant child. Send our Tory and Labour Party Leaders (who seem to be having an attack of the Terrible 2’s) to bed early and ground them until they are capable of behaving anything like the adults we are supposed to have as our political leaders.
The UK has been taken over by political lightweights who think that whatever they think must be fact so they continue to repeat their nonsense whilst the UK economy goes to the dogs. The poor are going to be made poorer, we are all going to be made poorer yet those who promote Brexit just keep ploughing on as though all is going to be well. It’s NOT, there needs to be a peoples vote on the outcome of the negotiations with the EU. We can’t leave it to our MP’s as the vast majority of them will just go along with whatever their ‘other universe’ leaders tell them. The people need to speak before we consider whether we really should go over the cliff edge or not.
The Guardian web site has the opinion piece – see link above
Electoral fraud on a possibly industrial scale is indeed chilling as it eats away at our democratic foundations.
With thanks to Roy Connell for the lead to this posting
The Liverpool Echo has one story about a politician seemingly falling foul of the facts – see link above – but this kind of presentation of ‘the facts’ by politicians and indeed newspapers is not new, however, it is widespread.
I’m not going to go into the issue of whether Ester McVey was right or wrong as the facts seem to speak for themselves – she was wrong. But the real question is why did she put her own spin on the Tax Credit issues? It was probably no more than playing to an audience who would like to hear her say such things. It’s the kind of messaging that the politically motivated tabloid press does each and virtually every day.
But what has led to many politicians saying things that may well be very far from the truth and indeed the facts in recent times? It’s likely to be the EU Referendum. How ever you voted the chances are that much of what you heard and read, particularly from the illegally overspending Leave campaign leaders, was wrong, misrepresented, alternative facts or damn right lying.
And since the EU vote that lying and misrepresentation has just bounded on as Leavers try to make their facts fit the real situation or mess that the UK finds itself in. Is it any surprise then that some politicians will misrepresent other issues too?
Often they are simply sending a message to their own supporters; a dog- whistle*. They don’t care whether the facts are correct, it’s all about their own supporters believing the message. The fact that opponents are enraged by the message is of no importance to those who send out the skewed messages.
But look at it another way, you are not just given misinformation or indeed told lies by the politicians and newspapers you don’t trust, you are also having it done to you by those you do trust! Just because a message meets with the agreement of your prejudices and beliefs does not mean that it is factually correct and that’s why I often say don’t trust anyone in power or with power – check out what they are saying and don’t just blindly repeat it as fact because it may be very far from being ‘a fact’.
* Dog-whistle politics is political messaging employing coded language that appears to mean one thing to the general population but has an additional, different, or more specific resonance for a targeted subgroup.
The Guardian has an opinion piece on its web site by Polly Toynbee – see link above
Quote from the article ‘The referendum set a fuse under democratic institutions, yet it’s the old Tory “establishment” who are turning into anarchist bomb throwers. They know they will have to defend the indefensible for ever. No instant economic calamity, as claimed by Project Fear may happen on Brexit day, but a slow frog-boiler of losses to growth (estimated by the government to be 2-8%), which will see the UK fall further behind erstwhile equals. How will they escape blame?’
With thanks to Roy Connell for the lead to this posting.
Note for Phil (in joke) you know you shouldn’t have read it!