Lydiate – That persistent flooding of Lambshear Lane

Well I’ve had a go at this one in the past (see previous postings going back ages ago) and so has my fellow Lydiate Parish Councillor Edie Pope but still a very significant flooding of the pavement and road surface takes place on Lambshear Lane after every heavy rain storm between Lydiate Village Centre and Oakhill Drive. The photo above was taken on 8th March.

Time to give Sefton Council Highways Dept. another nudge me thinks; surely they must know what the cause is by now and can fix it? More news when I have it.

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Lydiate – A new youth club? Well let’s hope so and that it’s a success

I was pleased to read, via the Maghull Community Facebook Page, recently that some folks are getting together to try to launch a new youth club at Lydiate Village Centre on Lambshear Lane.

Here’ a scan of the publicity leaflet which I picked up at the Village Centre last Thursday:-

But apart from doing my bit to give this excellent youth initiative a plug, there’s a bit of local history in all this too. You see the site where Lydiate Village Centre sits was once the site of Lydiate Voluntary Youth Club.

The old youth club was based in a large wooden building which if memory serves was donated by the Ford Factory. It was set up by parents who probably had similar aspirations for their local youngsters back in the 1960’s. My old mate Phil Davidson was one those involved in LVYC. Here’s a photo of the old building with former Parish Councillors Pat Foster and Tony Fenton outside it:-

Former Lydiate Parish Councilors Tony Fenton and Pat Foster outside the old Lydiate Voluntary Youth Club

Sadly the building was burnt to the ground, but that unfortunate incident also kindled a desire amongst Lydiate Parish Councillors of the day to erect a more substantial building for the use of all ages and sections of society. From that idea Lydiate Village Centre rose from the ashes some 15 years later with a big National Lottery grant to help the project on the way. Former Lydiate councillors Dave Russell, Andrew Blackburn together with the then Parish Clerk Brian Beaven were the driving force behind the Village Centre.

So what goes around comes around and let’s hope that the new youth club initiative will be a great success.

Lydiate’s Public Rights of Way

Ever wondered where Lydiate’s footpaths will take you?

Well have a look at this map of the Civil Parish of Lydiate (Parish Boundary not shown) with all the public rights of way detailed on it:-


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You will notice along the edges of the map that the footpaths have differing numbers and prefixes. This is because the paths cross into neighbouring Civil Parishes in Lancashire i.e. ALT = Altcar, DOW = Down Holland and AUG = Aughton.

The map is from a colour pamphlet produced by Sefton Council which details walks you can do locally. Copies can be obtained free of charge from Lydiate Village Centre in Lambshear Lane. Always open AM Monday to Friday and at other times when in use.

Lydiate – Junction of Sandy Lane/Lambshear Lane

It has been suggested to me by a local resident that this junction could do with being remodeled to try to stop vehicle drivers, who are tuning left, coming straight out of Sandy Lane onto Lambshear Lane without being able to pass traffic already on Lambshear Lane.

The problem seems to be associated with drivers who simply look right and if all seems clear swing straight around the corner. Trouble is the section of Lambshear Lane they are turning onto is effectively single carriageway due to parked cars. This means drivers not looking left can easily (and I am told they often do) coming face to face with a vehicle on Lambshear Lane that is on the same carriageway overtaking the parked cars.

Sefton Council tried to do something about this a while back when they painted a red hatched area onto the junction (at the end of Sandy Lane) to push drivers away from hugging the kerb line and make them get a clear line of sight before turning left. Of course this hatched area is often ignored, hence the problem.

Here is a photo which illustrates the matter.

Junc of Sandy Ln-Lambshear Ln

It has been suggested that Sefton Council could be asked to build the kerb out along the edge of the red hatched area so to force drivers to be more careful when turning left out of Sandy Lane. I have asked Sefton Highway Officers to investigate this potential road safety improvement.

Lambshear Lane Lydiate – Grass Verge Protection


So pleased this work is finally being done (see photo above) to try to protect the verge that runs along the boundary of St Greg’s Primary School.

Last winter and indeed the one before the verge here was so badly churned up it looked more like a war zone or a speedway track! I was approached by Lydiate residents asking for my help in trying to stop the vehicle parking on the verge. The problem seemed to be at its worst when the School hired out its football pitches outside School hours when the families of participants would park on the verge.

This is my original posting of 29th January 2013:-

Let’s hope this solution works.

Parking problems around St Gregory’s RC Primary School, Lydiate

And before anyone says what’s odd about that as there are parking problems outside virtually every primary school, everywhere because very few children walk to school anymore, this is not about issues of that nature at school times.

No the problem here is when the School rents out its football pitches at the weekend as this brings with it many cars associated with the families of participating youngsters.

I have been getting concerns from residents about this for some time now and posted about the grass verge in Lambshear Lane (which runs down one side of the site) being churned up by the vehicles of parents etc. when weekend football games are on. Check out my posting of 29th January 2013.

The Lambshear Lane problem has to a large extent been resolved via the School agreeing not to open its access gate onto Lambshear Lane when such matches are on but the related problems in Sandy lane are a real road safety worry.

What happens is that cars get parked all the way along Sandy lane from its junction with Lambshear Lane right up to the zig zag lines at the Schools main entrance and this is a long run. The road has a bend (which leads to poor driver visibility) and it is too narrow for vehicles to pass each other without one having to put two wheels on the pavement on the opposite side of Sandy Lane where there are houses.

The whole situation is an accident waiting to happen because it can only be a matter of time before a pedestrian gets knocked over who steps out of a driveway onto the pavement only to find a vehicle there running along the pavement at speed! I watched the problem manifest itself with Cllrs. Andrew Blackburn and Wyn Maher only last Sunday morning. The photo below helps illustrate the issues.


I have again raised concerns and hope that the School and Council Highways Officers can find solutions. My understanding is that the School does not want to allow the cars onto their car park due to potential security risks to the School but this unfortunately puts the problem onto the Sandy Lane which has brought resident safety complaints.

This is proving to be an intractable problem but I hope there is a solution out there.