Lydiate Footpath No.14 and a dog run may be a conflict of uses

On the map of Lydiate’s public rights of way/footpaths (above) No. 14 is towards the bottom right. It effectively follows the boundary of Sandy Lane Playing Field from Sandy Lane to Moss Lane.

When the Parish Council agreed to set aside a part of Sandy Lane Park for a dog run the wedge shaped corner of it was agreed as the site. Subsequently, the appropriate fencing was erected recently. But it was only when using the path the other day that I realised that the route of the public right of way seemed to be through the dog run area. See photos below:-

Footpath sign at Sandy Ln – There’s a similar one off Moss Ln

Dog run area seen looking towards Sandy Ln. The public right of way is to the left where the corner fence post is

Looking down the line of the public right of way from Sandy Ln.

My concern is that footpath users may have to walk through the dog run area as the boundary of its fence is right up against the field boundary which is overgrown. Clearly some people would not want to walk through an area where dogs are running free.

I’ve asked Sefton Council’s Footpaths Officer and the Clerk of Lydiate Parish Council to have a look at this issue with a view to resolving it for both dog walkers and those who walk the local footpath network. I’ll blog about it again when things are clearer.

Click on the map and photos to enlarge them

What to make of the local election results & a big thank you from Cllr. Edie Pope and myself

Firstly, it was great to see Southport Lib Dems regain a strong footing in their Town, winning 4 of the 7 seats up for election this year. Well done to all involved.

And a big swing from Labour to Lib Dem in Crosby’s Victoria ward for Hannah Gee as well. The way that determined young lady is going she’s going to win that ward back from the Red Tories soon.

Nationally it was a very good night for the Lib Dems and a bad one for the two main Brexit Parties (The Red Tories and the Blue Tories). As I make this posting the running totals of gains and losses of council seats in England was stood at:-

Lib Dem + 597
Labour – 101
Tories – 1136
Greens + 165
UKIP – 109

Brexit Parties Losses (Con, Lab, UKIP) so far – 1346
Remain Parties Gains (Lib Dem & Green) so far -762

With these local elections being fought to the loud background noise of Brexit it was always going to be a test of whether the electorate would continue to back Brexit or would signal a move away from it by backing Remain parties such as the Lib Dem’s and Greens. Yes I know local elections are supposed to be about very local issues but many electors these days use them to give their verdict on national political matters.

Labour were in a dilemma because they could not announce they had done a Brexit deal with the Tories before local elections as they would have been hammered, but let’s face it none of us will be surprised if the Red Tories back the Blue Tories in a job loss, NHS funding cut deal as the Labour leadership has wanted for a long time now.

Oh and just a footnote – I held my seat on Lydiate Parish Council – 34 years and counting as a Parish, Town and/or Borough Councillor in Sefton Borough’s East Parishes. It’s been a blast and the electorate keeps backing this old radical Liberal leftie for some odd reason. My Lib Dem colleague Cllr. Edie Pope also retained her seat on Lydiate Parish Council so congratulations to her too.

Lydiate and its Great War 1914 – 1918 – A lovely remembrance booklet

I think I mentioned a while back that Lydiate Parish Council had put some money towards this booklet which was produced to look at the impact of WW1 on the farming village of Lydiate, and how children today are remembering the young men from their community who gave their lives.

Local author and historian Pam Russell was the guiding light together with Kath Coyle – WW1 Lydiate project coordinator.

24 young Lydiate men died while serving in WW1

24 young men from Lydiate (or with strong links to it) died while serving in WW1 and the booklet celebrates the life of each one with individual write-ups. I was interested to have confirmed something which another well known local historian (Bruce Hubbard) had told me some time ago i.e. that one of Lydiate’s fallen is not on either war memorial in the community – Herbert Finch who was killed on 19th October 1917. It seems he lived near the Lydiate/Maghull boundary so may have unfortunately been overlooked by both villages. He is however commemorated at Tyne Cot memorial in Belgium. Wouldn’t it be fitting for his name to added now to either the memorial at Our Lady’s Catholic Church or the one at St. Thomas’ CofE Church?

There’s also a brief history of Lydiate through the ages and of Lydiate life in 1914 within the booklet.

As well as the booklet there’s a website about the project at ww1lydiate.org.uk which you can access via this link:-

madcos.org.uk/project/ww1-lydiate/

I think many primary school children from Lydiate’s 3 schools may have a copy of the booklet and you just might be lucky in tracking a copy down if you call in at Lydiate Village Center on Lambshear Lane.

A great tribute to the fallen, congratulations to all involved.

Lydiate – Some notes from the February Parish Council meeting – Donations and Dogs


We agreed to make donations to both Lydiate in Flower and Lydiate Village Festival.

Remember the trouble over dogs on Sandy Lane Playing Field and the dog walker getting fined* for their dog being on the football pitch from a few weeks back? Well since then the Parish Council has been creating and fencing off an area of the park where dogs can be walked without fear of fines. The fencing is now mainly in and it looks like this:-

We also discussed appropriate signage for the park so that dog walkers and indeed all park users know what the rules are surrounding dogs being banned from sports pitches. The rules are probably too involved for a simple notice so we discussed the possibility of a straight forward notice with the detail being available on the Parish Council’s web site.

* The fine was subsequently rescinded

Lydiate – So what about dogs running free on local parks?

Lydiate residents may recall recent newspaper headlines whereby a dog walker with a dog off its lead in a Lydiate park was given a ticket for a fine under a Public Space Protection Order.

That fine was subsequently rescinded following an appeal but the problem is still there because Sefton Council regulates dogs locally not Lydiate Parish Council.

After Parish Council discussion with Lydiate dog walkers, some of whom attended the Parish Council meeting last Tuesday, it’s been agreed that a part of Sandy Lane Playing Field will be fenced off where dog walkers can let their dogs off their leads. The work is to be carried out by the Parish Council in the near future.

Be careful where you let your dog off its lead on public parks as you could end up with a ticket. Best to consult Sefton Council’s website on the matter even if the park you are using is run by one of the Parish Councils in the Borough. Here’s a link that may help dog walkers:-

www.sefton.gov.uk/thegooddogcode

Lydiate – Residents protest against 3 storey block of flats for Saville Road

A large number of residents attended the public session of Lydiate Parish Council’s meeting last night in Lydiate Village Centre. They were there to raise concerns and objections to a recent planning application to build a 3 storey block of flats on the site of derelict garages off Saville Road to the rear of the row of shops on Liverpool Road.

Rear of the Liverpool Road shops on Saville Road. The proposed flats would be adjacent to them if Sefton gives planning permission.

The site is surrounded on 3 sides by bungalows and 2 storey houses so the fact that the application is for a 3 storey building means that overlooking of the neighbouring properties is a big concern.

Another concern is lack of adequate car parking facilities for the development in an area where on-road parking is hard to find at times due to the shops and commercial premises on Liverpool Road.

I must admit when I first became aware of the plan a few days ago my first thought was along the lines of you surely can’t shoehorn that many flats into that small space and anyway a 3 storey building is inappropriate for the site. My 2nd thought was I wonder if the applicant is applying for a 3 storey block thinking they are likely to be knocked back to 2 storeys via the planning process by Sefton Council Planners?

The Parish Council decided to recommend refusal of the application to Sefton Council’s Planning Committee. However, the Parish Council does NOT have the final say; that is in the hands of Sefton’s Planning Committee, so anyone wanting to raise concerns about the application needs to write into Sefton Council ASAP.

Here’s a link to the planning application on Sefton Council’s website:-

pa.sefton.gov.uk/online-applications/simpleSearchResults.do?action=firstPage