Lydiate/Maghull – Their former Cheshire Lines railway stations

A close up of Lydiate Signal Box

I have blogged about the isolated former Lydiate railway station before but to recap it was not even in Lydiate Civil Parish but just over the border in Altcar Civil Parish off Carr Lane*. It closed on 7th January 1952 and all trace of it has effectively gone. Interestingly though Lydiate does have a Station Road which joins Southport Road adjacent to the Scotch Piper Pub and does eventually lead to the former station.

Lydiate Station sat on the Southport & Cheshire Lines Extension Railway and the tracks were lifted after June 1960. The station site is still accessible though as it is on the Trans Pennine Trail/Cheshire Lines Path and the station site is one of the access/parking points on the footpath/cycle path. Here are a couple of signs that have been placed on the station site:-

I bet there are folks still around who can recall getting the train from Lydiate Station to Southport or indeed Liverpool. Indeed, when I moved into Sefton Lane, Maghull in 1968 an elderly couple next door would tell me of their travelling by train from the former Sefton and Maghull Station on the same line. That station has also gone now although the platforms were still there in 1968 – it’s all now part of Sefton Lane Industrial Estate. Then around 1970 I met a chap called Jack Petty who taught at Ormonde Drive Secondary Modern School (now Maghull High); he was my form teacher. He told stories of using the railway after the war to get from his Southport home to work in Maghull and how he was often the only person on the train and the station staff at Sefton & Maghull made him a brew each morning when he got off the train.

Memories…….

*Altcar Civil Parish was split as a consequence of local government reorganisation in 1974 and the part in West Lancashire is now called Great Altcar Civil Parish – The part in Sefton Borough is called Little Altcar Civil Parish and its the most southernmost part of what most folks will think of as Formby.

Scotch Piper – Doesn’t it look a treat

Lydiate’s famous Scotch Piper Pub is back up and running after the devastating fire to its thatched roof not so long ago. And it looks a treat now with it’s new wig, a coat of whitewash and bedecked with flowers.

I understand that Edie Pope of Church View Farm did the planters/flowers.

And this is what it looked like after the fire:-

What a difference a few weeks can make to this famous Listed Building known across the north west of England.

The top photo is amongst my Flickr shots at:-

www.flickr.com/photos/86659476@N07/

Lydiate – Its Listed Buildings

I recently came across a list provided by Lydiate Parish Council detailing the Listed Buildings within the Civil Parish and thought it worthy of sharing.

All the listings are grade II with the last two below being grade II*. The date after the grading is when the building was actually listed. I’ve added photos where I have them in my collection.

Barn to Lydiate House Pilling Lane II 17-01-1986 Barn and former stable – lintel inscribed 1611

Carriage House at Lydiate House Pilling Lane II 17-01-1986 Carriage house – probably early 18th century

Church House Southport Road II 11-10-1968 Farmhouse – 17th century

Church of Our Lady Southport Road II 17-01-1986 Catholic church – 1854/5

Church of St Thomas Church Lane II 11-10-1968 Church – 1839/41

St. Thomas Church

Church View Cottages Southport Road II 11-10-1968 Two houses – 17th century

Cross (approx 10m north of Church of Our Lady) Southport Road II 11-10-1968 Cross – upper part medieval, lower part a 19th century restoration

Lydiate Bridge Pilling Lane II 17-01-1986 Bridge over canal – c.1770

Looking through Pilling Lane canal bridge at boats moored outside Mersey Motor Boat Club.

Lydiate Hill Bridge Approx 40m from Southport Road II 17-01-1986 Bridge over canal – c.1770

Lydiate Hill (also known as Billy’s Bridge) Bridge over the Leeds Liverpool Canal.

Meadow View Farmhouse Pilling Lane II 17-01-1986 Farmhouse – datestone inscribed 1753

Remains of Lydiate Hall Southport Road II 11-10-1968 Remains of Hall – 15th & 16th century, with 19th century additions

Rose Hill Pygon’s Hill Lane II 17-01-1986 House – 18th century

Scotch Piper Public House Southport Road II* 11-10-1968 Public house – said to date from 1320 but probably 16th century

The Scotch Piper. Recently re-thatched after a serious fire.

St Katherine’s Chapel (Lydiate Abbey) Southport Road II* 11-10-1968 Ruined chapel – late 15th or early 16th century

St Catherine’s also known as Lydiate Abbey

I hope this posting helps fill in some gaps about Lydiate’s history, I know it has filled in some of my own.

The Scotch has a new wig

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It’s not so long ago that the Scotch Piper pub suffered a really bad fire which destroyed its thatched roof. My posting on the day of the fire is available via the link below:-

tonyrobertson.mycouncillor.org.uk/2016/12/06/famous-scotch-piper-pub-goes-up-in-flames-again/

Now after weeks of being behind scaffolding and plastic sheeting the new almost finished new thatched roof is there for all to see and it’s looking good.

Click on the photo to enlarge it

The photo is amongst my Flickr shots at:-

www.flickr.com/photos/86659476@N07/

Scotch Piper Fire – The day after

I went to have a look at the pub this morning and the photos below say it all really.

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I got into a conversation with chap and it turned out he was the new licensee/landlord. He was full of praise for Merseyside Fire Brigade (who were there until 11.30pm last night) and said it looked like the fire had started in a similar way to the previous one a few weeks ago i.e. chimney related.

The inside/structure is OK but there is considerable water damage if I understood correctly.

I wished him all the best and hope the pub management company will get him up and running again soon.

Stop Press:- The Carols and Bells event (which had been down to be at the Scotch Piper) to raise funds for St, Catherine’s Chapel AKA Lydiate Abbey has been moved to the Running Horses Pub in Bells Lane, Lydiate at 7.30 tonight.

Famous Scotch Piper Pub goes up in flames again

Lydiate’s famous Scotch Piper Pub has gone up in flames within the last hour and it’s the second fire involving its thatched roof in a matter of weeks.

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The first fire was thought to have been caused by a chimney fire but it was nowhere near as extensive as this afternoon’s blaze.

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I counted 5 fire engines and a Merseyside Fire and Rescue control vehicle and as I post this news the fire is still burning in the thatch.

Such a sad event to strike such an historic building.

Note:- Click on the photos to enlarge them