Brexit – What does all this waffle mean?

Guess who wrote the piece below, even better guess what they were trying to say!

All that has been changed is that where names of political parties or the names of politicians are mentioned they have been replaced by *****

‘***** accept the referendum result and recognise that Britain is leaving the EU. But unlike the *****, we believe that jobs and the economy must come first in the negotiations. That means rejecting ‘no deal’ as a viable option, negotiating strong transitional arrangements to ensure there is no cliff-edge for the economy and putting much greater emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union.

This amendment would not have kept the UK in the Single Market. It was a meaningless and technical amendment that would not have addressed any of the many serious flaws in the ***** Withdrawal Bill. It also would not have had any material impact on the final Brexit deal.

***** is clear that we want a Brexit deal that keeps the UK as close as possible to the Single Market and that ensures we retain the benefits that UK businesses and workers currently enjoy from our relationship with the Single Market.

Securing that deal is really important, but it is of course part of the Brexit negotiations. A negotiated outcome cannot be achieved via delegated powers to this Bill, which is why this amendment was completely meaningless and why ***** did not support it.

The ***** ***** must now change ***** approach. ***** must drop ‘no deal’ as a viable option and put much stronger emphasis on jobs, the economy and retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union. It is vital that Parliament is involved throughout the negotiations, including through a truly meaningful vote on the final deal.

Only a ***** Government can prevent a reckless ***** Brexit, build a close and collaborative future relationship with the EU and deliver a Brexit deal that protects jobs, the economy, rights and living standards. As we hold this weak and unstable ***** administration to account on Brexit, we stand ready to take over the negotiations and to secure the best deal for Britain.’

To which the response from an old lefty of my acquaintance was:-

Come on show some leadership, save the country, go down in history, Kinnock saved the Labour Party, you can save the Country go one better.

You’ve probably guessed by now that the piece was written to people who were contacting JC asking him and his Parliamentary Labour Party to back an Amendment to the EU Withdrawal Bill going through Parliament in the past few days. Nice to know that the Official Opposition is as incoherent as the Government over Brexit, or is it!

With thanks to Roy Connell for the lead to this posting

JC – Hugely popular with his adoring fans BUT….

That Jeremy Corbyn has almost God-like status amongst his fans is undeniable. And why not he’s pledged to do many wondrous things that few people could argue with. He’s going to save the NHS with massive injections of cash. Save our railways with nationalisation and massive injections of cash. Save students with no more student loans/tuition fees (despite Labour previously bringing in such loans/tuition fees) and possibly paying off/refunding all the old/outstanding loans/tuition fees too. I could go on but I’m sure you get my and indeed JC’s drift.

Does he mean it? Will all his pledges come about if the electorate gives JC a majority at the next election? I’ve been asking such questions of folk I know who are involved in politics and their answers are illuminating.

Labour Party members/supporters (excepting the Momentum crowds and JC adorers of course) seem generally downbeat to me. And no, I’ve not been talking to those right wing Labour Party members who some refer to as Red Tories.

What Labour members who are sceptical of JC say is generally summed up like this:- We know he will not be able to deliver at least half of what he promises/pledges because there won’t be the money available to any incoming Labour Government to do it.

And of course this line is backed up by the present state of the economy following the the financial crash some 10 years ago and the many years of austerity we have suffered. Having said that JC is also going to kill off austerity of course!

Why only recently it’s been revealed that Brexit, which of course JC is hugely in favour of, will lead to the average household being around £4,000 per year worse off so government revenues will obviously fall, possibly dramatically too. What’s more leaving the Single Market and Customs Union, as JC wants, will in turn mean that to compete the UK will need to slash taxation (and things like the regulations that protect workers rights) so government revenues will be hit hard there too. The question being how will JC deliver his pledges with far, far less money being available to his government?

What I am saying is that Labour supporters, who are not wedded to Momentum, see a huge problem brewing for Labour in that it will fail spectacularly to deliver if it gains power at Westminster. Not my words but those of credible Labour people I have spoken to.

Wanting to do all the things that we all want doing in our society is very different to being able to deliver them and many Labour members know this.

And then you look at credible people outside of the Labour tent and the answers/comments are very similar to those skeptics within Labour’s tent. Look at this write up from Cllr. Ian Brodie-Browne:-

birkdalefocus.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/sefon-lab-councillor-decalre-year-zero.html

Whilst Iain’s blog posting is predicated on what has happened at Sefton Council meetings the thrust of it fits with what I have heard from within Labour’s tent. Indeed it’s not just me as Roy Connell told me only recently about a chance encounter he had with a senior Labour figure locally who had all sorts of worries about JC’s pledges.

I seriously want many of the things JC is pledging to be delivered – A better funded NHS, no more PFI deals to deliver public services, no more tuition fees etc. etc. But economic reality can’t be controlled to deliver enough money into the government’s purse to make wishes come true. Leaving the EU is not going to make things better economically, its going to make things worse! We will still be living in a global economy no matter how much we pretend to be little Englanders who are unaffected by world issues. Investment in the UK needs stable economics, yet we are heading directly for unstable waters due to Brexit and unrealistic spending pledges by the likes of JC.

He may be loved, he may be adored and believed (indeed he may passionately believe that all his pledges are deliverable himself) but that does not mean he can and will deliver when all the pointers say he can’t.

As Iain Brodie-Browne points out you can’t just say the new world begins today and everything that was done before it, even by Labour in government, is irrelevant history. It’s not irrelevant because it has put us where we are socially and economically. We might not like where we are, I for one certainly do not, but that does not mean we can change our situation by simply believing another better world is possible. Slamming on the brakes does not stop a massive oil tanker; our economy is like an oil tanker. No matter how much we wish and vote for massive social and economic change it will only happen slowly over many years. Stop the world we want to get off could be the slogan of Brexiters and indeed Momentum but what will actually happen if we pull the wrong leavers is that we stop economically and the rest of the world keeps spinning.

JC your world like Brexit is a seriously false and damaging fantasy and there are many in your party who know that.

Brexit – And the shambolic negotiations stumble on

www.libdems.org.uk/delay-brexit-trade-talks-humiliating-davis

The story is linked above to the original article by Tom Brake MP.

Lib Dem MP Tom Brake

Maybe Bill Esterson MP, the Labour International Trade Shadow Minister, could help? He was on Radio 5 Live a couple of days ago giving the socialist ‘perspective’ on the matter. My previous posting refers at:-

tonyrobertson.mycouncillor.org.uk/2017/08/16/boris-davis-and-fox-the-3-tory-brexit-ministers-they-look-shmbolic-but-what-would-be-different-under-labour/

Cacoathes: an urge to do something inadvisable.

Jen Robertson dug out this interesting but rarely used word because on the odd occasion I am known for saying some inadvisable things but it did make me think of recent seeming uses of it all be it without it actually being said.

The EU Remain campaigning Labour Party doing a complete U-turn and voting for Brexit? Inadvisable

The classic of Nick Clegg saying he would oppose Tuition Fees and then dropping that opposition. Inadvisable

Labour saying they were going to defend the Sefton Green Belt and then voting to build on it. Inadvisable

The Tories saying in their 2015 manifesto that they wanted to remain in the Single Market and then voting to leave the Single market. Inadvisable

The UK voting to leave the EU in the advisory referendum. Inadvisable

I could go on but I am sure you get my drift…..

May – She’s playing a game which she does not know how to win

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/28/theresa-may-brexit-meeting-single-market

The Guardian has the story on it web site – see link above

Leaving the Single Market without clearly knowing what a credible alternative trading strategy will look like could well destroy our economy.

It’s alright for Brexiters to say oh just leave all will be fine when they have no idea whether it will be or not! Do we really want mass unemployment, a collapsing economy and no money to support vital public services? If not then we all have to see all the options before us before we go wandering off another cliff.

Thanks to Roy Connell for spotting this story.