Syria – Jen Robertson writes a guest posting – So the main issue is Jeremy’s ratings!

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/30/labour-moderates-syria-vote-party-politics?CMP=fb_gu

This struck me as an interesting article – see link above to The Guardian web site. The man’s clearly got his own (Anti-Corbyn) agenda, but he points out very well how disgusting it is that people are making political hay over a decision like this.

Throughout this debate I kept hearing again and again ‘what will Syria do to Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership?’ a hell of a lot more than I heard anything about what might happen to Syria itself or even the UK’s own security. Maybe if everyone spent more time on actual politics and less on internal Labour party politics everyone might have a better idea of what the hell’s going on in the world. Certainly it might at the very least help Labour look a bit better, as at present it simply no longer matters who amongst them is in the right because the conduct of both sides condemns them all.

The vile responses to those who voted in favour of bombing Syria are a good example of how whether you’re right or not rather ceases to matter when you behave in a reprehensible manner. People using terms like ‘final solution’ and using tactics involving intimidation and sexism are very much forfeiting any moral high ground they think they have.

There was a horribly telling tweet from Stella Creasy in which she wrote, in response to a tweet that appears to have since been deleted, ‘Am not sure what my fertility has to do with this debate but if you are Walthamstow resident come on Sunday?’. Unfortunately Stella I can you exactly what your fertility has to do with it (though I’m sure she already knows) you’re a woman, which means you will find that when you upset people they will hurl misogynistic abuse at you, especially a woman in your position who has dared to enter the political world dominated by men.

For the record I absolutely don’t like the way Stella, Tim, and far too many others voted but I’m afraid I find it hard to believe that people who hurl abuse are genuine proponents of peace. These issues seem sadly indicative of a politics that has forgotten what it’s there for, these are not supposed to be rival gangs simply craving power, these are the men and women who should be working to better all of our lives. Shall we talk about the impact the vote will have on Syria, on international security, on the refugee crisis? Nah, Jeremy Corbyn’s career is clearly more interesting and if we’re lucky there’ll be an MP out there we can criticise for wearing the wrong skirt or not being a mother. And we wonder why people seem disaffected.

Guest Posting by Jen Robertson – Stella Creasy checked out

First an article in the New Statesman – see link below:-

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/stella-creasy-rages-against-political-machine-can-she-break-it

The more I read about this woman the more I seem to like her. Labour’s mistake in their Leadership election wasn’t electing Corbyn, I think it was not electing her. She’d have been a good foil to him (whatever you think of him it is a little dispiriting to see yet another political party being run by middle aged men) and a sign the party was actually going to take women seriously.

A Creasy quote:-

“We can’t afford to waste anyone in the Labour party,” she says. “Most of my adult life in the Labour party it has been Brownite, Blairite, Trot. . . It’s a machine on all sides, that says ‘unless you can conform to our gang, we’re not interested in working with you’. That has got to stop.” – have you ever seen anyone in Labour see their major problem so clearly and cite it so honestly?

Her comments about working on specific issues you believe in with anyone who will work with you is so counter to how I normally see Labour as operating and so much more how these things should work. I don’t agree with her on everything (but then we are sat in different political camps so no big surprise there) but she would have been a wonderful break from the Old Boys Club Labour struggles to escape from.

I also feel Corbyn would have had an easier job selling that cabinet with someone at his side who has such clear and uncompromising passion when it comes to fighting for women’s rights. What really angered me about that cabinet though wasn’t the potential sexism of his choices but that the press didn’t really care if the cabinet was sexist or not, it was just a convenient stick to beat Corbyn with which devalues the very serious, very real, issues that women face in politics.

Tony’s Editors Note:-

The quote above “Most of my adult life in the Labour party it has been Brownite, Blairite, Trot. . . It’s a machine on all sides, that says ‘unless you can conform to our gang, we’re not interested in working with you.” could have been written by me as an observer of the Labour Party in action on Merseyside. Factions that seem to hate each other more than the Tories, tribal beyond belief and ruling clans who guard their fortress walls against all internal Labour members unless they have pledged allegiance to the clan in blood I assume.