Want to stop Brexit? You’re not alone – Andrew Adonis in Ormskirk Saturday 23rd Feb’

Andrew Adonis a senior Labour party figure who is opposed to Brexit and all the harm it will create, indeed the harm it is already creating across the UK, is speaking tomorrow 23rd Feb’ at Ormskirk Civic Hall at 2pm.

Here’s a link which gives more information:-


Yes he tends towards tribal Labour in my opinion which makes it all the more fascinating that he is openly taking his own party leadership to task because they are still backing/enabling the Tories job loss Brexit.

Sadly, I can’t get along to the meeting as I’m otherwise engaged but please consider going if you, like me, think that Brexit is an utter disaster for the UK.

Brexit – Where are the credible facts about leaving the EU

Clearly the Brexit campaign is led by a colourful bunch of politicians but one thing they seem unable to do is to put before us a clear way forward for life outside of the EU.

Yes it is easy for them and their supporters to say daft things like:-

‘The EU bosses us about’
‘We need Brussels’ permission to do anything’
‘We are being bullied into staying in the EU’
‘We want Britain to be great again’
etc. etc.etc.

It’s like saying we don’t like where we are now and want to be somewhere else without having a map to show how to get to somewhere else or knowing what somewhere else will be like.

It’s all emotional arguments rather then credible ones.

In many ways you have to stare aghast at Brexiters as they are in effect saying we should all jump off the cliff with them, not knowing if there are rocks below, how far down it is, whether the tide is in or if there are sharks in the water. A leap into the unknown indeed.

Having been fed a diet of silly tabloid stories about the EU for years now it is probably no surprise that some folks have taken these stories as fact. But none the less it is worrying that those who want Brexit can’t seem to be able to say how they will ensure a better, brighter future for the UK.

Some of them seem quite happy to put the UK economy at greater risk than it is already although I can’t understand why.

Others want us to ‘rule the waves’ again but fail to say how our small country will achieve this.

Many have forgotten why the EU was created (to help bring peace and stability to Europe) and you wonder why they think a less stable Europe is in the UK’s interests.

In reality this referendum is mainly about the problems within the Tory Party as they try to keep their bickering members happy. Of course whatever the result those members will never be happy. We would not be having a referendum if Cameron had not been backed into a corner by UKIP and those Tories who may defect to UKIP.

But there is also a dilemma for Labour here too as their ‘working class’, whatever that may mean, supporters are mainly on the right of British politics whilst seeing Labour as ‘their’ tribe. They read the right wing press but vote Labour. They are anti EU but vote Labour. They are one of the reasons Mr. Corbyn has to be very careful about what he says and why Labour’s been so quiet in the campaign so far.

So please Brexiters put before us a credible plan for how you see things unfolding if we leave the EU and one that independent minded people can assess and comment on. It’s time to speak with a common credible voice rather than emotional rhetoric.

Europe – Why staying in is important – An Irish perspective

To me Europe is important, I don’t feel threatened by it and I am certainly not a Little Englander wishing for past glories to return. Nor do I believe many of those daft press stories about the EU bossing us around. Such stories may well fill newspapers but that does not mean they are true.

For me the peace and stability that the EU has helped to bring to a continent that had previously always been at war is worth a lot. Of course Europe is nowhere near perfect and of course it never will be. How can it be with so many completing national interests on the table all the time.

Last Monday evening Jen and I went to hear what the Irish Ambassador to the UK (Dan Mulhall) had to say about Europe and it was a fascinating talk in the University of Liverpool’s Leggate Lecture Theatre in the Victoria Museum on Brownlow Hill. Cllr. Sue McGuire the Lib Dem Leader on Sefton Council was there with her family together with other prominent Merseyside Lib Dems such as Kris Brown and Paul Clarke.

Irish Ambassador to the UK, Dan Mulhall

Irish Ambassador to the UK, Dan Mulhall

One interesting issue that would probably not occur to most of us (unless we have strong/close ties with Ireland) is what on earth will happen with the border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic if Britain leaves the EU?

In reality the effect of the peace process in Ireland and the fact that both counties are in the EU has been that the border is all but non-existent in all practical terms. But should we leave the EU that boarder will again become an external border as the Irish Republic will be staying in the EU. Now that’s a worrying thought indeed.

Clearly the Irish have far more open minds to the EU than many Brits seem to have yet Ireland is a very small nation with far less clout than we have. I wonder why many of of us fear partnership and crave isolation? Instead of driving the car we content ourselves with hitching an EU lift now and again.

Being a trade unionist also means that I appreciate the positive effect that the EU has had on our working lives, working hours and prosperity.

So I am certainly in the ‘IN’ camp in the forthcoming referendum and listening to Dan Mulhall was useful and informative and it certainly helped to broaden my mind.